Future of Tribe

topic posted Fri, November 9, 2007 - 1:12 PM by  Rachel
I've read a lot of rumors about Tribe's supposed impending doom, but all it seems to be are people saying they've been reading a lot of rumors and speculation about the future of Tribe.

Maybe it's uncouth to ask this, but is there anything from an actual credible source concerning Tribe's future? Are people getting worked up over nothing? If Tribe does go bye-bye, will there be some warning or will we just get the "Donut freak out" page for a while until we decide to give up?

I'm not saying that I expect a definitive answer from Tribe's administrators, especially since it is a business. But if it is possible to address this in some way that could either put minds at ease or help members prepare for a future without Tribe, I think it would be useful. Again, maybe I'm being uncouth, but I can't find anyone directly asking about the future of the site and I'd rather ask the question than sit back and read yet another "what'll happen without tribe" thread.


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Rachel
  • Re: Future of Tribe

    Fri, November 23, 2007 - 12:27 PM
    They should be appealing to the corporate sponsors of burningman and other alternative events. Tribe seems to see no value in the users, yet the users give tribe 90% of the value it has. If tribe at any point over the past few years payed attention to the members it has (or had really) and catered tribe for their interests rather than trying to be a myspace/facebook/craigslist clone, I must have missed it.
  • Re: Future of Tribe

    Fri, November 30, 2007 - 9:07 AM
    Not sure what is going on, i haven't been on in awhile. But one thing is sure. Tribe has been blessed with a niche group of wonderful and interesting people. Communities have a way of developing all on their own in ways that are beyond anyones ability to control. I think the administrators of tribe could learn a lesson in accepting what is and building on it. It seemed like they have when recently, they started to go back to the old look. Any attempt to make Tribe into something other than what the community made it has resulted in failure IMHO. But if they are having trouble keeping it running I could understand that.. its tough to do in this day and age.
    • Re: Future of Tribe

      Sat, December 8, 2007 - 3:20 PM
      Tribe destroyed all of it's forward momentum between December 2005 and January 2006. If they were smart, they would have looked at that window and reversed all of the bad decisions they made during that time 'while' they had the staff to actually work those changes. Instead of doing this, they fired everyone, lost a ton of 'profits' and forced all of their talent into getting bought off by cisco in order to maintain their households and lives.

      How you change it? Probably more offline marketing. Investing in parties, sponsoring, ads in indie music and magazines, becoming a headhunter and talent agency through running contests that pay in real money, etc.

      There's really a lot tribe can do to fix themselves if they just decided to think beyond programming the site.
      • Re: Future of Tribe

        Sun, December 9, 2007 - 10:16 AM

        There's really a lot tribe can do to fix themselves if they just decided to think beyond programming the site.>>>>
        More interactive and augmenting a lifestyle... instead of the 2- dimensionality of MySpace and it's ilk.

        The performance art I did @ 111 minna ... in S.F.
        because of a Tribe party was an excellent opportunity to branch out into a new form of art for me.
        More of that would be really attractive.

        Gone one day ?
        Not like FA.

        A donation box maximizes yes...
        What about Donating to a tribe... so that the specific tribe could have an upgraded format ?
        • Re: Future of Tribe

          Tue, December 11, 2007 - 11:57 AM
          i could be wrong but i don't think the revenue generated so far by premium memberships (and/or donations/t-shirt sales) has had any effect on tribe's ability to sustain itself. perhaps we are too small a community to keep tribe afloat.

          tribe *is* worth it, it is more useful to us than facebook or myspace or livejournal or we'd be wasting our time there right now. but tribe is fallen, for various reasons, and may not be able to get back up. there have been good suggestions here and in brainstorming, but it might be too little too late. i hope not, i'd like to see tribe survive, turn itself around and become a success.
          • Re: Future of Tribe

            Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:23 PM
            > i could be wrong but i don't think the revenue generated so far by
            > premium memberships (and/or donations/t-shirt sales) has had
            > any effect on tribe's ability to sustain itself. perhaps we are too
            > small a community to keep tribe afloat.

            Yes, you could be wrong.

            The premium memberships were what gave Darren the money to replace the server that went nipples-up last week. I'm sure someone else can dig up the thread where he explicitly states that it was this source of money that prevented the outage from only being about a day.

            So the memberships have *already* demonstrably sustained tribe.
            • Re: Future of Tribe

              Tue, December 11, 2007 - 7:29 PM
              <The premium memberships were what gave Darren the money to replace the server that went nipples-up last week. I'm sure someone else can dig up the thread where he explicitly states that it was this source of money that prevented the outage from only being about a day. >

              Well, its a good thing that there's enough suckers out there to buy tribe a new image server... Maybe they're dyslectic... sever, service close enough.
  • Re: Future of Tribe

    Sat, December 8, 2007 - 5:19 PM
    Judging by whats been going on & the lack of any kind of support whatsoever, massive down time, etc, I dont think its outta the question that it could just be gone one day.

    And the paid service is insulting if you ask me. Why would someone wanna pay for this, honestly?? I understand if they wanna take donations, thats fine, but why act like its some kind of "premium" service when there are no mods, no posts to let people know whats going on, CONSTANT downtime, no updates, vacant tribes with nary a post in months, etc etc??? "Oh, but here, give us some money to make it better, disgruntled user." Its horseshit.

    You can't polish a turd, but that seems to be what they are trying to do with their premium service. Make a donation box. That would be less insulting to users.

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