Yes on Prop 8 ads

topic posted Mon, November 3, 2008 - 5:34 PM by  barnaby
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I've been a heavy Tribe.net user for more than 5 years. I've created and moderated several Tribes with several hundred members. But I am having a lot of trouble seeing how I can remain a member in good conscience, after logging in today and being barraged with Yes on Proposition 8 ads.

Have you no shame, Tribe.net? Are you completely disconnected from the values and demographics of your base?

It is outrageous that you would accept money from a transparently discriminatory lobby that targets a disproportionate number of your own users. It sickens me.

I come here, as I have every day for years, and I have to look at these pictures of little children, and read that they will be protected by a constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage. Protected from whom?

The technical disaster that this site has become is hard enough to swallow, but this ... this is morally reprehensible. Shame on you, and your willingness to cash in on the politics of hate. Shame on you!
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  • Re: Yes on Prop 8 ads

    Mon, November 3, 2008 - 5:40 PM
    tribe doesn't pick the ads, google does...

    and once again, no one's here to take your call.
    • Re: Yes on Prop 8 ads

      Mon, November 3, 2008 - 5:59 PM
      It still stinks to high hell, and as far as I'm concerned, Tribe.net is still responsible for their content. I work for a website that made a decision not to use Google ads for just this reason ... it's called principles.

      I agree it's not as bad as I thought, but I think I'm right to be outraged, and Tribe.net has a responsibility to seriously consider how they raise money.
      • Re: Yes on Prop 8 ads

        Mon, November 3, 2008 - 7:37 PM
        well, then click on the ads.

        It costs the Yes on prop-8 people money, and that money goes to tribe.

        It's a 2-for-1.
        • Re: Yes on Prop 8 ads

          Wed, November 5, 2008 - 12:37 PM
          The prop 8 people have/had an abundance of money, so clicking on their ad and costing them more money is of no concern to them. They got their message across 24/7, right here in Tribe.

          The price paid for those ads is far greater than any dollar amount.

          Hopefully Tribe will donate all the money they made from running the Prop Hate/8 ads towards a cause that doesn't condone discrimination and inequality. That would make me feel SO much better about the 8 ambush in here.
          • Re: Yes on Prop 8 ads

            Sun, November 23, 2008 - 12:55 AM
            This is a slightly different thread about the prop 8 ads. There are other responses to the same question in other threads.

            Basically the issue is pretty simple: Tribe can't survive without Google's adfeed. No feed, no tribe. Yes, we can stop the feed and go away on principal. Seems extreme; seems unlikely anyone on Tribe would have had their opinion swayed by the ads.

            It is entirely understandable that people were offended by the ads, though people are offended by things they find on tribe all the time, some one way and some the other.

            But remember, unlike the print ads put up everywhere and on every TV station, the PPC ads google runs run on a finite budget and thus every click brings the campaign one click closer to its limit. Clicks generated in an unswayable demographic like Tribe's are unserved ads in swing regions.

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